Comments on: Neda's death gives the resistance a face (5) http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/ Jack's Newswatch - You can fool some of the bears all of the time, and all of the bears some of the time, but you can not fool all of the bears all of the time — Jack's Newswatch Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:13:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Crux of the Matter » Blog Archive » PM Harper condemns Iran’s “brute force” http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-1000 Crux of the Matter » Blog Archive » PM Harper condemns Iran’s “brute force” Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:52:26 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-1000 [...] to lose their lives for the freedom we in the west take for granted.  Note: Visitors can also check out these sources at the bottom of this post at Jack’s Newswatch. This post C/P there as [...] [...] to lose their lives for the freedom we in the west take for granted.  Note: Visitors can also check out these sources at the bottom of this post at Jack’s Newswatch. This post C/P there as [...]

]]> By: stageleft http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-999 stageleft Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:42:32 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-999 @timwest, yeah, right, that's why there are protests, because Bush invaded and occupied a country, and in the process of doing so managed to kill tens of thousands of innocent people, create untold numbers of orphans, widows, and cripples, and render millions homless.... it hasn't become anything like the rousing beacon of democracy he claimed it would be - but don't let that stop you from saying it is - as Farley Mowat once said, never let the truth stand in the way of telling a good story. @timwest, yeah, right, that’s why there are protests, because Bush invaded and occupied a country, and in the process of doing so managed to kill tens of thousands of innocent people, create untold numbers of orphans, widows, and cripples, and render millions homless…. it hasn’t become anything like the rousing beacon of democracy he claimed it would be – but don’t let that stop you from saying it is – as Farley Mowat once said, never let the truth stand in the way of telling a good story.

]]> By: MaryT http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-998 MaryT Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:44:19 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-998 Who remembers all those trucks leaving Iraq before the invasion.  Were they ever checked to see if they really were Red Cross trucks.  I still think they were filled with those WMDs that Saddam had, and had used on the Kurds.   As for medicine and food being denied, remember all those warehouses filled with food aid, found by the US soldiers.  Remember the oil for food scandal involving Mo Strong and others, including a PM at the time.  His family had contracts with Saddam and that is why our PM didn't get involved, greed rather than some great love of freedom.  The protests in Iran will not stop overnight and many more will be killed.  Let us pray that the revolutionary army will get a conscience and quit killing their own people. The majority of the population is said to be under 30, so they will be around for many years to fight for freedom.  What is our main problem in Canada, someone has to wait for EI, until all his severance and holiday pay is used up.  Who remembers all those trucks leaving Iraq before the invasion.  Were they ever checked to see if they really were Red Cross trucks.  I still think they were filled with those WMDs that Saddam had, and had used on the Kurds.   As for medicine and food being denied, remember all those warehouses filled with food aid, found by the US soldiers.  Remember the oil for food scandal involving Mo Strong and others, including a PM at the time.  His family had contracts with Saddam and that is why our PM didn’t get involved, greed rather than some great love of freedom. 
The protests in Iran will not stop overnight and many more will be killed.  Let us pray that the revolutionary army will get a conscience and quit killing their own people.
The majority of the population is said to be under 30, so they will be around for many years to fight for freedom.  What is our main problem in Canada, someone has to wait for EI, until all his severance and holiday pay is used up. 

]]> By: Cynapse http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-997 Cynapse Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:35:37 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-997 The Iranians likely don't crave anything that's going on in Iraq.  The violence has escalated via civil war since Saddam was thrown out.  US reporters have been fired for reporting this fact. The Iranians likely don’t crave anything that’s going on in Iraq.  The violence has escalated via civil war since Saddam was thrown out.  US reporters have been fired for reporting this fact.

]]> By: timwest http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-996 timwest Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:15:59 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-996 Stageleft.................... looks like Bush and his right wing hawks were right. Once the people of Iran saw freedom in Iraq, they would  crave freedom since the bulk of Iran's population is under 30. Mean while B. Hussein Obama looks forward to July 4th celebrations with Iranian Govt officials. Stageleft……………….. looks like Bush and his right wing hawks were right.

Once the people of Iran saw freedom in Iraq, they would  crave freedom since the bulk of Iran’s population is under 30.

Mean while B. Hussein Obama looks forward to July 4th celebrations with Iranian Govt officials.

]]> By: Jack http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-995 Jack Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:17:52 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-995 More on Neda in the latest update.  Iran mourns her.  So should the world. As we learn now her name means "Angel of Freedom" and indeed she is. In my "pointy headed view" she is not dead -- she has changed. Instead, she has cast off one life for another as do we all in time. Right now she is pointing her angry finger at "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad" rel="nofollow">the monkey</a>" and he is going to pay. It's only a matter of time. More on Neda in the latest update.  Iran mourns her.  So should the world.

As we learn now her name means “Angel of Freedom” and indeed she is. In my “pointy headed view” she is not dead — she has changed. Instead, she has cast off one life for another as do we all in time. Right now she is pointing her angry finger at “the monkey” and he is going to pay. It’s only a matter of time.

]]> By: Jack http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-994 Jack Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:58:06 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-994 <p>There is a lot of hurt in this world Stageleft and I won't deny that.  But right this minute we have a chance to correct something  if we support people who want to make change.  I don't know that we will be successful but we try. Regarding garbage -- nobody gives a damn except those in Toronto.  We don't care because they elected Miller.  Now they have to live with him.  "And I know"...why I ever mentioned TO's garbage is way beyond me.  My only excuse is that I had just woke up badly sunburned and my mind was on other things.    I wasn't thinking. Sorry about that and hopefully you will forgive.</p> There is a lot of hurt in this world Stageleft and I won’t deny that.  But right this minute we have a chance to correct something  if we support people who want to make change. 

I don’t know that we will be successful but we try.

Regarding garbage — nobody gives a damn except those in Toronto.  We don’t care because they elected Miller.  Now they have to live with him. 

“And I know”…why I ever mentioned TO’s garbage is way beyond me.  My only excuse is that I had just woke up badly sunburned and my mind was on other things.    I wasn’t thinking.

Sorry about that and hopefully you will forgive.

]]> By: stageleft http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-993 stageleft Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:43:27 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-993 That WMD example is sort of a bad one to bring up Jack, specifically because we all know where Hussein was getting his weaponry at the time, who was expediting his removal from the "<em>don't give this guy pointy objects because he will hurt someone with them</em>" list, who sold him the method of delivering his chemical retribution against the Kurds, and who turned a blind eye to his atrocities because at the time it suited their purposes to do so? That said, I think your garbage strike concept is an all to frequent indicator of the way the west picks and chooses who they are going to be sympathetic towards. How many in the west cared when children were denied medicine under the sanctions placed against Iraq? Under the ongoing embargo of Gaza? How about when white phospherous was falling on innocent men, women, and children in Fallujah? How about when the US used napalm like substances in civilian areas of Iraq? When it fell on innocent civiliansd in Gaza? When civilians were being slaughtered in Shri Lanka? What about the genocide in Darfur? What about the child who died on the streets of Gaza not so very long ago because medical aid was denied by soldiers with guns? IIRC that child was a little girl as well, does she not matter as much as Neda? What about the Iraqi girl (what was she.... 13? 14?) who was gang raped at gun point by US soldiers, shot, and then burned to hide the evidence? Does that little girl not matter as much as Neda? At the time of each of those events the west was more worried about mundane things on the home front because those were not, and are still not, "<em>popular western causes</em>". With luck I also popped a couple of bubbles, and made a few people uncomfortable - more than likely though that's not the case because, as I said, no popular western causes were involved in what I discussed. ..... and now ya know why I try really hard not to put up posts like this one anymore. That WMD example is sort of a bad one to bring up Jack, specifically because we all know where Hussein was getting his weaponry at the time, who was expediting his removal from the “don’t give this guy pointy objects because he will hurt someone with them” list, who sold him the method of delivering his chemical retribution against the Kurds, and who turned a blind eye to his atrocities because at the time it suited their purposes to do so?

That said, I think your garbage strike concept is an all to frequent indicator of the way the west picks and chooses who they are going to be sympathetic towards.

How many in the west cared when children were denied medicine under the sanctions placed against Iraq? Under the ongoing embargo of Gaza? How about when white phospherous was falling on innocent men, women, and children in Fallujah? How about when the US used napalm like substances in civilian areas of Iraq? When it fell on innocent civiliansd in Gaza? When civilians were being slaughtered in Shri Lanka? What about the genocide in Darfur?

What about the child who died on the streets of Gaza not so very long ago because medical aid was denied by soldiers with guns? IIRC that child was a little girl as well, does she not matter as much as Neda? What about the Iraqi girl (what was she…. 13? 14?) who was gang raped at gun point by US soldiers, shot, and then burned to hide the evidence? Does that little girl not matter as much as Neda?

At the time of each of those events the west was more worried about mundane things on the home front because those were not, and are still not, “popular western causes“.

With luck I also popped a couple of bubbles, and made a few people uncomfortable – more than likely though that’s not the case because, as I said, no popular western causes were involved in what I discussed.

….. and now ya know why I try really hard not to put up posts like this one anymore.

]]> By: Jack http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-992 Jack Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:34:15 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-992 Agreed and God bless them all as they take back their country. Agreed and God bless them all as they take back their country.

]]> By: Soccermom http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-991 Soccermom Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:52:35 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-991 All they want is freedom. So sad. All they want is freedom.

So sad.

]]> By: Jack http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/2009/06/22/nedas-death-gives-the-resistance-a-face/#comment-990 Jack Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:37:07 +0000 http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/?p=1290#comment-990 I will add -- Neda's death devastates me.  Watching the video in the sidebar tears come to my eyes and I feel just like her father because I have two daughters just as brave.  I understand what she wanted -- freedom -- and I agree. So does the Shah's son<a href="http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/iranian-unrest/#clip185670" rel="nofollow"> as he answered a few questions today</a>.  I'm looking for his full speech now.  If anyone finds the video send me a link. I will add — Neda’s death devastates me.  Watching the video in the sidebar tears come to my eyes and I feel just like her father because I have two daughters just as brave. 

I understand what she wanted — freedom – and I agree.

So does the Shah’s son as he answered a few questions today.  I’m looking for his full speech now.  If anyone finds the video send me a link.

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