Comments on: Burkas have no place in France: Sarkozy (1)

By: stageleft

stageleft — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:49:47 +0000

@beentheredonethat: Really, does that mean that Christians trying and push their ideology on non-Christians in the political arena makes Christianity a political ideology?

By: Cynapse

Cynapse — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:26:11 +0000

For a period, it was customary for Christian women in Southern Europe to wear head covering. But that’s all aesthetics. The real issue is suppression of women’s rights, and Christianity can claim no victories. Apart from the fact that women have had the vote for less than 100 years (and mostly to the Church’s chagrin), female inheritance was allowed in the Islamic world long before it ever was in Christendom.

Moreover, for all of our babbling about freedom, Sarkozy’s law prevents women who want to wear the burka from doing so. Does anyone not see the irony in this decision?

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:21:54 +0000

Cynapse, I simply cannot recall a Christian in recent years wearing a head covering, or Christians hijacking a plane and crashing it into the World Trade Center. I don’t think that you can call that “Equivalent” behavior. Don’t get me wrong I strongly believe that the majority of muslims won’t go to that extent. But it does say in the Koran “that we must drive out the infidel” and too all of you that aren’t muslims, you are infidels.

By: Cynapse

Cynapse — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:06:02 +0000

Imagine the uproar if a Christian ‘gang’ had been responsible. One doesn't have to imagine. The ultimate result was that the assailants mostly lived long and prosperous lives, with the covert sympathy of the legal/political system and Joe Middle Class. One guy was caught and sentenced when he was already almost dead and that is mostly due to the efforts of the evil, freedom-hating "leftist" groups.

By: Cynapse

Cynapse — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:02:26 +0000

Islam is a religion, exactly the same as Christianity and Judaism. Most of the attacks against it are circumstantial. Everything you can find that Muslims are doing that is bad contains one or more of the following attributes:

1) Equivalent behaviour can be found in recent Christianity
2) The custom is more indigenous to the actual region than it is religious, and for that matter can be found in other religions in the region
3) Part of a geopolitical conflict and given religious overtones

By: beentheredonethat

beentheredonethat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:58:10 +0000

BTDT @ 3:56 on June 25th: Islam is a political ideology.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:06:59 +0000

Depends on how many beers I’ve had. I’m like a woman — I get to change my mind.

Heh…

By: stageleft

stageleft — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:10:54 +0000

Jack @ 6:31 on June 24th: “Time to call this religion what it truly is — a cult.”

Jack @ 6:59 on June 24th: “Nobody is bashing muslims in France”

Is there two Jacks, or have you got an extra personality we’re just finding out about?

Or are you using the strict academic defination of the word “cult” which, among other belief structures, Christianity falls under?

By: beentheredonethat

beentheredonethat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:03:47 +0000

Why I, as a British Muslim woman, want the burka banned.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1195052/Why-I-British-Muslim-woman-want-burkha-banned-streets.html

By: beentheredonethat

beentheredonethat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:00:00 +0000

Imagine the uproar if a Christian ‘gang’ had been responsible. This is unimaginable savagery. Then to make matters worse the Muslim community turns on one of their own for helping to bring the killers to justice.
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/02/another-muslim-race-hate-attack-on-kriss-donald-street-1.html

By: Cunctator

Cunctator — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:32:20 +0000

Jack, you are right — Islam is little more than a death-loving cult.

It would be very good if a Canadian political leader said what Sarkozy did.

Frankly, I wish that Sarkozy went even further — ban the building of mosques and the wearing of headscarves, and stop all teaching of Islamic beliefs and tenets to the children of Muslim parents.