Nancy Pelosi is shocked by the presence of some swastikas at protests against Obamacare. Who ever heard of such a thing? Well, any mildly alert American old enough to remember the anti-war protests of 2003-2007. Images of George Bush with a Hitler mustache and a Nazi uniform was everywhere at swastika-choked marches and rallies. “Stop the Fourth Reich-Visualize Nuremburg,” said one sign at a Hollywood march. “The Fuhrer already in his bunker,” said another. Lots of Nazi regalia appeared at protests in Pelosi’s San Francisco as well.
On far-left Internet sites, where basic Bush-Is-Hitler commentary became too familiar to attract attention, Bush aides were quickly assigned Nazi roles; Tom Ridge was the new Himmler and Colin Powell became Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop; Ari Fleisher, Karen Hughes and Karl Rove were all Josef Goebbels figures. Some thought Vice President Cheney was the most important Hitler figure – he commands “storm-trooper legions,” said famous crackpot Lyndon LaRouche.
One fevered lefty connected Bush to Nero as well as Hitler, saying “Nero burned Rome, Hitler burned the Reichstag and Bush burned the World Trade Center.”
An even more inventive commenter managed to link Rove to Josef Mengele, the depraved Nazi doctor nicknamed the Angel of Death: “Bush made up stories about John McCain, just as Josef Mengele conducted medical experiments on children in Auschwitz.” What?
Donald Rumsfeld was the new Rommel. The Action Coalition of Taos, New Mexico, however, thought Rumsfeld was the real Hitler, since, like Adolf, he had a mountain retreat. In an op-ed published in Florida, Air Force veteran Douglas Herman, disagreed, saying Rumsfeld was more like Goering, because both men had been fighter pilots.
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6:58 pm EDT, August 8th, 2009 – Media Ignore Pelosi Nazi Comparison
If both sides would spend 10% of this hateful energy on doing what is right for America there would be no problems. Unfortunately both sides mistakenly believe they are doing just that.
mid island mike
It ain’t about America. It’s about winning.
Re: #2 — “It ain’t about America. It’s about winning.”
And what “pray tell” are Americans about to win?
I agree with the idea that health care needs to be looked at as our population ages (that applies to all western countries). I do not agree with the Chicago tactics “His Oneness” and that stupid woman that controls the house wish to follow.
I especially do not like Emanual who calls out the thugs whenever he doesn’t get his way. Does he control Obama? I don’t know but I suspect so and if I were Barack I would get rid of this man very fast before he starts a riot.
That would happen on “general principles”. I don’t like the gait of this thug and he’s destroying his boss.
It ain’t about America. I’ve gotta agree. These actions are not the actions of America. Next will be attacks on the radio stations and those that speak out about the Empty Suit and his destructive (to most) plans. Seems to me his buddy Chavez is a step or two ahead of him.
But how much do you agree, Pat? In your mind, is it just the “left” that is out for power while the “right” is fighting for the liberty and prosperity of all? Because that’s not agreement – that’s propaganda.
The amusing part is Pelosi’s faux outrage. She’s sputtering when she made that observation. How dare anyone accuse her and Obama of being like Nazis!!
After all, the NAZI was an acronym for a name… National Socialist German Workers Party… It’s not like the Democrats are a national party… or socialist… or associated with unions… or a political party…
Well, at least they’re not German, right?
Only problem with that part of the recent revisionism is that the Nazi party quite proudly and admittedly took their social policies from American right wing philosophy.
German Aryan = American Nordic
Eugenics was popular in America long before Germany
Economic exclusion had been practiced in the USA for centuries
Start there
For a learned gentleman, you have some rather curious gaps in your education…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
The original Aryans were identified as white-skinned Indo-Iranians… Start there…
Mr Mac, I know where real Aryans come from … and according to most Brahman/Sikh sources I’ve read, “Aryan” refers to a class of people rather than a specific ethnicity. Invading Greeks, Persian etc could become Aryans while it was possible for a Dravidian woman to marry into the Aryan class.
When the Nazis originally went to war, many upper caste Indians originally backed the regime thinking they were spiritually kindred. They soon reversed their position.
As for the Nordic tie, Hitler frequently referred to an “Aryan/Nordic” race and American eugenic principles to solidify his mythology. The tests used on Jews and other races (i.e. shape of the skull) were based on American studies of Nordic people vs Mediterraneans, quadroons, octaroons, etc. Eugenics was also a popular idea in Britain before the Nazis rose.
I believe it would be more accurate to say Hitler and the Nazis used comparisons with Roosevelt’s “New Deal” and it’s authoritarian policies in their propaganda to justify the dictatorial actions they were taking as they seized control of Germany.
I haven’t read much about Eugenics so I can’t offer much… Sorry…
Roosevelt? That’s getting pretty abstract. You could then compare the Nazis with just about any government that did anything for its people. As we just learned, putting all your trust in the guys with the suits doesn’t always lead to universal prosperity. It shouldn’t since in a real market system every party is SELF interested. This is ok for +90% of the time but without government intervention and regulation, one blip in the economic map could leave entire economies decimated and under the control of a few barons. As much as you hate government, it often stands between us and literally becoming a banana republic.
Hate government? I don’t hate government at all! I certainly don’t like the direction which governments are heading but I recognize that without rule of law, without government, there is no real freedom. I’ve always advocated for a reduced role of government back to it’s legitimate jurisdiction; nothing more.
Tell me… do you hate freedom? Do you despise liberty? Do you loath justice? If I were to accuse you of these things, you would be shocked. I’m no less shocked to read you say that I hate government.
Hopefully it’s fair to say that you don’t like the government having significant power in any instance. Without Roosevelt’s deal, the US was heading for third world country status. The same could have easily happened in the wake of this recent market crash. But as soon as government gets involved some people totally flip their lids. As though leaving the situation to the hucksters and dopey consumers that caused the problem would also magically solve it. When regulation proves incompetent, the government is bound to clean up its mess. Sometimes that involves seeing more government than perhaps a libertarian would like.
Within their defined roles, governments should be powerful. Outside of those roles, they have no business interfering.
Since, as you acknowledged, governments were incompetent in creating regulations which caused economic havok, then how do you reconcile the proposal for more government intervention to be an effective solution?
Incidentally, Roosevelt’s ‘New Deal’ didn’t save the US from economic chaos. It created more chaos which extended the economic crisis and resultant depression…
Capitalism can also take the lives of many, particularly the poor and sick and can also take your money through things like greed and recently, a made in the U.S. recession.
Is there a better system, I sure hope so butt I’m still waiting.
UV, it’s not the system, it’s the people within the system. If you think that human nature will change under a socialist system then I think you are naive. A true capitalist system has the advantage of competition which would hopefully provide a level playing field. There’s no such hope in a socialist system yet the greed and corruption are still there hidden under layers of bureaucracy. I’ll take my chances with capitalism, thank you very much. At least then I have a choice.
Human sociopaths, greed etc will persist regardless of economic/political system, as there will always be demagogues. What makes the difference is whether the system limits these individuals, ignores them or rewards them. Western society tends to limit such people politically but reward them in the economic sphere. We go to great lengths to limit presidential terms, create adversarial checks and balances, etc in the political sphere … yet let economic barons run riot over the population and call it “freedom”. It’s as though the rules of decency and mutual respect don’t apply so long as you made a lot of money. And yes – we’ll take our chances with them.
Really? Economic barons running riot? No doubt capitalists are often their own worst enemies but given how even the most trivial aspects of our lives depend on the trust of the free market and the trillions of dollars that are honestly exchanged everyday I’d rather take the occasional kick in the pants from a riotous baron than the perpetual frustration of socialism. No system is without its risks. But only capitalism offers virtually unlimited rewards, the vast majority of which is achieved honestly.